Monkey Business: Chimp Spanner Interview
24 01 2012By Fletch Whipp
Paul Ortiz, the visionary music maker behind the incredible instrumental music that is ‘Chimp Spanner’ is one of those rare individuals you speak with whose humble, thankful nature shines through during an interview. His Olympic sized chops & depth of maturity as a composer is heard on chimp Spanner’s latest Basick Records release ’At the dream’s edge’ which is a blend of progressive, djent & atmospheric soundscapes. RockStarzUSA caught up with Paul during Christmas just after he completed a European tour with Cynic.
RockStarzUSA: In the late 80s to early 90s, technically challenging melodic instrumental music was at a peak with artists like Satriani, Vai, Morse and Gambali. Today we are seeing a resurgence of instrumental based music in a heavy progressive vein like yourself. What do you credit this resurgence with and what is the reaction from your fans to this?
I’m not sure where it’s come from really. I actually missed most of the Vai/Satriani/etc. stuff the first time around as I only got into guitar music very late, and it was mainly Nu Metal! But even in a short space of time I witnessed the backlash against that, and I suppose at some point Nu Metal was itself a backlash against technical music – hell even I used to be against guitar solos. Can ya imagine?! So it’s probably just a cyclical thing. Either way it’s something that people want right now, and our weird little micro-genre seems to be fulfilling their needs! Saying that, I do think that there’s a limit to how much you can throw at a listener and there will probably come a time when they’ve had enough widdly and want something more stripped back, restrained, or just straight up musical. I’m always trying to keep that balance.
RockStarzUSA: Can you describe the most important aspects of your live production equipment set up for us?
It’s a really basic setup; we all use POD’s direct, and the set backing/metronome is run off of an iPod. So I suppose those two things are the most important two elements of our live show. But then they’re kind of the onlytwo elements of our live show haha! One thing we’re still struggling with is monitoring. When it’s good, it’s really good. When it’s bad it’s almost unbearable. But at this point we’re at the mercy of in house monitor engineers and venue wedges. Way too many variables. Eventually we’d like to have our own wedge + mixer setup but like most things, it’s just a matter of “what can we afford”.
When I first started sharing my music, I was just grateful for every person that took the 3-10+ minutes to listen to a song of mine and I still feel the same way. Success, to me, is someone on the other side of the planet putting my song on and enjoying it! I think if people can maintain that kind of mentality they’ll enjoy what they’re doing at whatever level they reach. Not to say that it’s a bad thing to be driven or ambitious, but it has to be tempered with the realization that making any kind of art in this day and age is a downright luxury, and the ultimate goal should be to create something that will reach and affect other people, over and above anything you feel you might be ‘entitled’ to on account of your music. So many people are clamoring for the same thing. That level of competition can produce some outstanding music for sure. But it can also lead to a lot of stress and disappointment. Be prepared to make your living in other ways, basically. And count yourself lucky for every success you achieve through your music!
Sure! I think the fans are gradually wrestling power back from the ‘industry’. They want serious artists they can support and invest in. My one hope would be that the wider music scene pays attention, although I don’t suppose they have much of a choice. Album sales aren’t falling because everyone suddenly figured out how to torrent. They just don’t want to be fed an endless cycle of regurgitated trends and treated like cash cows. There are plenty of people that will support good, honest music. And it’s them, and the artists they support that will shape the new music industry.
It was all pretty amazing to be honest. Getting to hang with Cynic was great fun – they’re all really cool guys. And hearing their music every night was an absolute pleasure. I guess the best part was just winning new crowds over. I mean it was definitely Cynic’s tour. Prior to this we’ve played shows/tours where everyone who knows one band is almost certain to know the other. But this time we were playing to a sea of Cynic and Death shirts! Seeing people’s expressions visibly change throughout the set was really rewarding, and by the end of the show we definitely felt as though we’d made a hell of a first impression.
RockStarzUSA: I recall reading previously that you wanted to learn your software more than formulating a plan to chart a career performing live. Listening to your music however, brought a pleasant surprise with the high degree of overall production, the whole product was very balanced, and almost seemed compositional, like a film score in parts. What software are you using, and can you describe your recording setup for us? Are you an in-the-box guy or do you have a high quantity of outboard gear?
Yeah you nailed it – I approached the album very much like a score. It really helped to have an idea or a story as a framework to build the song around. Kind of like writing to a brief! I’m an in-the-box guy. I use a PC, a POD HD Pro/X3 Pro, a FireWire 410 and my instruments. It’s a very unimpressive looking setup! I use Cubase to record with. I’ve been a Cubase user since it was on the Atari so it’s just second nature to me now. It’s great because in 10 minutes or so you can have a section of a song done with near-final production and all your layers and stuff. That’s how I like to work.
Well, stereos have a volume knob for a reason right?! Okay I’ll admit, sometimes I’m a little shy when it comes to mastering. My goal at the moment is to have the loud parts at least comparable to commercial recordings in terms of their peak volume. But squashing the life out of a mix to make it sound louder just doesn’t have the same effect as simply playing it louder. Faking the sound of your mix ripping through air at casual listening levels is fine until you turn it up, then it turns to mush. I prefer a mix where the instruments have space to actually push some real air when listened to at high volume…almost like having the instruments playing in the room. Plus I’m a big fan of dynamics in music. Loud isn’t loud when it’s loud all the time. You’ve got to have contrast.
I’m forever envious of people that are able to keep that busy with their writing! I mean in my head, I’m always thinking of something be it a melody or a rhythm or whatever. But in terms of my actual output, it’s very sporadic. Sometimes I sit down with all the right intentions and after a whole day I’ve done nothing. Other times it just comes freakishly easy. It’s kind of inconsistent, and very annoying!
I know right? It’s always a tricky one to answer. No idea why. I guess at the moment I’ve been revisiting a lot of music that I missed the first time around, more for enjoyment than inspiration. I’m currently listening to a lot of Queen, and Pantera haha. Odd combination. My bassist is always putting me on to awesome jazz/fusion artists. Greg Howe’s Extraction is played a lot around here. Current metal bands that have had a real impact on me lately would probably be Gojira (I saw them at Sonisphere and was blown away), Deftones (Diamond Eyes is one of my favourite albums of all time), Cynic (for obvious reasons) and as always…Meshuggah. Because when all is said and done, nobody really does it like them, and their albums never get old for me! Otherwise I’m just trying to take in as many influences as I can. It could be Excision one day, Enigma the next, John Williams the day after that. Whatever’s going!
Yeah I sure do! I’m looking forward to moving away from Djent a bit (some would argue I was never really that close to it anyway!). It’s fun to write stuff that’s rhythmically complex or tricky but it’s not always so fun to play it live, and it can really push you into a corner melodically. I’d rather explore more interesting chord changes than start every idea with a crazy beat. I also want to have FUN writing, rather than smashing my head into my desk because I can’t nail something that I wrote! I’d also like some more room to improvise live. So that’s something I want to try out in the new material. I’m also going to try and treat my lead lines more like vocal lines (in the absence of actual vocals) so there won’t be so many sections that sound as though they could or should have vocals on them. More than anything I just want to go back to that cinematic, epic vibe I was aiming for on ATDE and take it somewhere new.
I get asked a lot about coming to the US. It’s definitely on the cards but it’d have to be the right tour to justify the expense. But there seems to be demand for it and it’s something I’d personally love to do this year. So yeah I think it’s just a matter of waiting for the right offer!
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Pfffff now that’s a tricky one! I think I’d be too petrified to play a note in front of Holdsworth, Metheny, Vai, Haake or Devin! But that should give you a pretty good idea of the kinds of artists I’d like to write with.
As long as I’m able to live comfortably (and by that I mean in the warm, with access to tea and guitars) and still play music, I’ll be a happy man. I never imagined I’d do as much with Chimp Spanner as I have done up until now. In some ways I think if I had of imagined it or aimed for it, it might not have happened! So I’m just going to see where it takes me and enjoy the ride. One thing I’ve always wanted to do is write for games and/or films. I’d like to at least have a foot in the door by then. No idea how I’d go about that though…
RockStarzUSA: Thank you for your time Paul, and all the very best for 2012, and the release of ‘All roads lead to here’.
Thank you Fletch for the opportunity to talk with you
Chimp Spanner’s latest release ‘All roads lead here’ will be released February 6th 2012.
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